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August 8, 2004: AmyLee talks to Joe Rules about her 14+ years in pro wrestling, her experiences wrestling Riptide and former-WWF star Nicole Bass, her martial arts background and much more...
JOE RULES: "Pryme Tyme" Amy Lee, you've been in the wrestling business for 14 1/2 years and counting, and not many indy wrestlers can say that. Why do you feel you've lasted so long?
AMYLEE: No ego...I do what the promoter asks me to do. I STRONGLY believe that if you do your job 1000% with no ego, you will last a lot longer. I am a heel, and the heel's job is to put the babyface OVER.
JOE RULES: I couldn't agree more...Over the course of your career, you've held several different championships. I understand, in fact, that you are currently the reigning champion of WEW and DWOW. Tell us about those promotions and how you enjoy competing there.
AMYLEE: First, I was unable to defend the WEW title in Tampa, so I had to relinquish the championship. Secondly, being the DWOW champion gives you a lot of recognition. Working with "gorgeous" gals as well as talented women gives you credibility. It is a POSITIVE thing when someone promotes women's wrestling with TV and PPV. It grabs attention as well as curiosity. Working for these two promotions is a pleasure, because most guys look at women's wrestling as cupcakes, not talent. They are talent. They treat the women with respect and not as a "piece" or arm candy even if they are model-like women, plus these promoters have given me just as much exposure as working for the NWL and House of Pain Wrestling (Caricofe/Rambo).
JOE RULES: Are there any matches in particular you've been involved in that stand out in your mind?
AMYLEE: Working for the NWL/House of Pain, they allowed me to wrestler mix-gender matches, including a battle royal where I was the only female wrestling. I didn't win, but the experience was priceless. In WEW, beating the hell out of Tai "Killer" Weed and Davie Mae has always been enjoyable. I love to give a good ass beating. In DWOW, my feud with Riptide was a VERY competitive one. I have to say, working for NWS as a REFEREE has added some great memories to my career. Refereeing a match with Al Snow vs. Simon Diamond was a great learning experience, and to be part of the match was even better. The psychology was AWESOME. I also refereed in NWS a legends match where Jimmy "Superfly" Snuka wrestled "Luscious" Johnny Valiant. It was like stepping back in time and being a part of history! I also MANAGE as DAME DAPPER FALCO...she is a cross between Nanny Fine and Elizabeth Taylor
JOE RULES: Well, you've certainly taken on some big names in the world of women's wrestling. In your G.L.O.R.Y. Profile, you've called your match with Riptide your biggest win, and you've called your match with Nicole Bass your biggest loss. Tell us about those matches, and how did wrestling Riptide compare with wrestling Nicole Bass?
AMYLEE: There was NO comparison. Riptide is a very talented and enthusiastic wrestler. She gives you a run for your money and is willing to go an extra mile to please the fans. Our "Hovember to Remember" match is classic, because we both kicked ass in/outside the wrestling ring. Hands down, she is a tough cookie. Nicole Bass...well, she is a VERY NICE person OUTSIDE the ring, but questions herself inside the ring. She does what she can, but to me--I love a good ass-kicking challenge. Nicole is big and muscular, but in my opinion, doesn't apply herself. She holds back as if she is uncertain, which can flatten a match! It's like a chocolate cake without the cocoa, which means it's blah and tasteless. I wrestled Nicole a few time for NWA Jersey under Moore/Panzarino/Rubenstein, and they started to realize that those matches were getting worse instead of better. Not good for any wrestling show! When two big women go at it, the fans should be at the edge of their seats or standing like in Hovember to Remember, not bored or leaving for snacks. When the crowd speaks, a wrestler should listen. Next question?
JOE RULES: In your Profile, you also listed working with the late "Hot Stuff" Eddie Gilbert as one of your career highlights. What was that like?
AMYLEE: Managing, not valeting, cause valets are just T&A. You learned quickly about territories and working the crowd. Each territory is different, which I learned with Gilbert quickly. We were working in Tennessee, and I managed him on a show which broke into total chaos! The fans followed us back to the locker room. We couldn't leave until the fans left. I thought I did a great job, but Gilbert explained that you turn on the juice at certain times. I quickly learned to turn the juice on ONLY in certain spots of the match. Consistently was not necessary. Less is more, so to speak. I worked a few times with Gilbert in New Jersey under the promotion of Dennis Coralluzzo. It was pretty exciting to work with such a legend in a business in my hometown area. Call me a mark, but aren't we all!
JOE RULES: You mentioned working as a referee in NWS. Do you enjoy that, and is that something we might expect to see more of from you?
AMYLEE: I do enjoy it. I get to work with some of the TOP indy talent such as Mike Kruel and Matt Stryker, as well as the legends such as Captain Lou. It is a close-caption viewing of such great matches, plus it sharpens your ring awareness. I find that refereeing strengthens my ring judgment quite a lot. It makes you more aware of the area surrounding you. I know they teach you that in wrestling dojos, but refereeing DEFINITELY sharpens your viewing/judgment of distance. I cannot wrestle forever, so refereeing would keep me involved. Who knows? Someone may like my refereeing style and give me a shot somewhere. Besides, I actually blend in. That is something TOTALLY OPPOSITE of my wrestling/managing personas, lol. Next?
JOE RULES: I understand you have an impressive martial arts background. How did you first become interested in that?
AMYLEE: I used to get my ass kicked by the neighborhood girls. These two sisters dislocated my right shoulder in a fight
JOE RULES: You are also a karate instructor now, correct?
AMYLEE: Yes, I have a dojo in National Park, New Jersey called U&B GoJu. I teach women, children, and men. Yes, men, the police chief in my hometown learned his weapons self-defense from me when I was only 16. It was hard being so young teaching adults, but my maturity (lol) and knowledge spoke for itself. I wasn't your typical 16-year old. Well, actually I was cadreing (assisting classes) at age 12. At 16, I worried about two things, karate and the next main event at the Philadelphia Spectrum! When most of the girls in high school went to their proms, junior year I attended a karate tournament in New York, and senior year I attended a Philadelphia Spectrum show where Hulk Hogan was the main event. I wore Hulk Hogan T-shirts in high school with collegic wrestling shoes and sweat pants. Attractive, huh?
JOE RULES: As a fellow Hulkamaniac, you won't catch me complaining about your high school attire!
AMYLEE: Well, that's good you liked the attire, but I could never find a Hulkamaniac prom dress, or I might have considered going...
JOE RULES: Tell us more about your dojo. How would one get in touch, should they be interested in joining?
AMYLEE: If they are interested, they can e-mail me at email@example.com or call the dojo at
JOE RULES: Amy Lee, thank you very much for this interview. I know first hand that you are a force to be reckoned with, and I wish you the best in wrestling, the martial arts, and in all you do.
AMYLEE: Awww, I think you just made me blush! Thank you for the opportunity and exposure. Remember, "Life is a banquet, and most people are starving to death." I have yet to miss a meal